Luxury property tax
#1
Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:00 PM
I have not seen this mentioned in the forum posts I searched. Is this tax in place? I saw a post about tax evasion but it didnt make wheether this tax is in place or not clear to me. Thanks in advance for the advice on this.
#2
Posted 11 April 2009 - 07:09 PM
Phil
#3
Posted 11 April 2009 - 07:16 PM
#4
Posted 12 April 2009 - 06:51 AM
Here is an article,Proposed Property tax that may fill you in. The 'subject, comes and goes....
#5
Posted 04 October 2009 - 08:26 PM
This post has been edited by eskasue: 04 October 2009 - 08:27 PM
#6
Posted 04 October 2009 - 08:43 PM
eskasue, on 04 October 2009 - 09:26 PM, said:
Sue,
I posted the taxing rate schedule today on the Forums at:
http://forums.arcr.n...dpost__p__30308
As to how the govt assesses the value of property, I suspect it has to do with who you (the owner) are and who is doing the assessing. (Don't mean that to be funny; it's just the Tico way, alas.)
Cheers!
Paul M.
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#7
Posted 07 October 2009 - 07:27 PM
Epicatt2, on 04 October 2009 - 09:43 PM, said:
I posted the taxing rate schedule today on the Forums at:
http://forums.arcr.n...dpost__p__30308
As to how the govt assesses the value of property, I suspect it has to do with who you (the owner) are and who is doing the assessing. (Don't mean that to be funny; it's just the Tico way, alas.)
Cheers!
I assume that it makes no difference if the property is in a corporation or directly owned by an individual. Correct me if that appears incorrect or isnt know yet.
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#8
Posted 12 October 2009 - 05:19 PM
#9
Posted 12 October 2009 - 08:16 PM
eskasue, on 04 October 2009 - 09:26 PM, said:
1 million colones or US$172,000
#10
Posted 09 December 2009 - 08:18 AM
#11
Posted 10 December 2009 - 12:52 PM
This post has been edited by LWilson: 10 December 2009 - 12:53 PM
#12
Posted 10 December 2009 - 02:30 PM
I paid $9,000 + per year in the US. Here, you would not pay that on a million dollar home. CR needs money badly and this new tax (hard though it may be to get details and pay it) is far overdue.
Now saying that, what I DO think is really dumb is that the $$$ is not going to pay off debt, increase security, hire and train more police or increase their salaries, fix roads or infrastructure, increase services, etc..... it is going 100% for slum clearance and providing homes for the poor.
While certainly not (on the surface) a bad idea as that is certainly needed... I'd prefer at least part of it to go to things that benefit more of the population as a whole.
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#13
Posted 10 December 2009 - 03:17 PM
TicoGrande, on 10 December 2009 - 02:30 PM, said:
I paid $9,000 + per year in the US. Here, you would not pay that on a million dollar home. CR needs money badly and this new tax (hard though it may be to get details and pay it) is far overdue.
Now saying that, what I DO think is really dumb is that the $$$ is not going to pay off debt, increase security, hire and train more police or increase their salaries, fix roads or infrastructure, increase services, etc..... it is going 100% for slum clearance and providing homes for the poor.
While certainly not (on the surface) a bad idea as that is certainly needed... I'd prefer at least part of it to go to things that benefit more of the population as a whole.
TG
#14
Posted 10 December 2009 - 03:42 PM
This new luxury property tax is unreasonable, ill thought, and its implementation very poorly planned. I agree that the economy in CR certainly can use some infusion of funds, but it appears that the infusion rests on the backs of those who made long term investments based on one set of rules and the rules are a moving target now.
I have no problem with paying a fair tax, based on information that can be readily understood, and with forms and applications that are realistic with proper timelines. I do have a problem when it appears that the penalties will be unreasonable (when there should be NONE AT ALL based on the timeline given), and applicable to those of us whon are being blindsided by it. Not only can the abogados not understand it, but how many of us are going to be taken - again - by the unscrupulous ones of which there are no shortage?
Does Costa Rica need housing for its poor and disadvantaged? The answer is undeniably YES. However, if more thought were given to how this type of legislation could be implemented and fairly, it would be a positive. Now it is a negative. The "socialized medicine" issues in CR are a huge drain on its economy. Particularly, since there are no measure to discourage the proliferation of illigitimate children, unwed mother pregnancies, government subsidies for the continued support of these children and mothers/families, or proper education to assist in these matters.
CR has so many good things going for it, its natural beauty, lack of a military, an abundance of agricultural opportunities, as well as manufacturing opportunities. However, its lack of concentration on security, improvement of its police and legal systems, and its lack of protection for real estate investors shows that it is not serious about improving its economic status, other than by increasing the tax burden on the very element of its supporters who have made it so popular.
It is a second world country that cannot progress without taking a long hard look at its failings, and taking action to properly improve them to turn those failures into achievements.
I am not a happy camper at this point.
This post has been edited by LWilson: 10 December 2009 - 03:53 PM
#15
Posted 10 December 2009 - 09:56 PM
I agree 100% and have been told to ignore this law since many believe it will be challenged as unconstitutional. As another writer puts it,
Open letter by: Bob Klenz, Dominical, Costa Rica.
vistadelcano@hotmail.com
I have lived for over 16 years full time in Costa Rica with 15 years of permanent residency. I understand how things work here and also how things don’t work here. Laws are written by politicians with good intent but with very little understanding of how difficult or impossible it is to comply with them.
Most laws passed in Costa Rica are eventually challenged in the Supreme Court and ruled unconstitutional. I would hope that this will happen in this case. The end result should be a better and fairer law and a means of helping the poor and the housing problems.
To start off with, I am not against the intent of this law, i.e. to help eliminate slums within Costa Rica. That being said, I am against a truly ridiculous method of trying to collect this tax using intimidation and threats against common everyday citizens and residents. I can’t believe that to date, nobody has challenged this questionable law and that there aren’t more people (especially Tico’s) in an uproar, screaming bloody murder over this misuse of power. We have large groups of friends in both Dominical and in San Jose. These friends are from all over the world and many are Ticos.
At every gathering the only topic of conversation is this problem tax and the inability of all of us to figure out how to comply with it. Many people are very upset with it and even though they may want to comply, do not know how or cannot do so legally. The high degree of frustration is evident with everyone we speak to about this tax. The Costa Rican Government should only know the amount of pain they have caused so many people who want to do their part but can’t. As to the problems of this tax.
Even a blind person can see the inequities that are so blaring in this law:
1) Pay on line via computer! Although in this day and age, many people are computer literate, I find it highly questionable as to the legality of requiring people to own or use a computer to file a hard to understand tax form. Is it part of the Costa Rica Constitution to own a computer?
2) As a foreign resident, WITH OR WITHOUT A RESIDENT CEDULA, you cannot access the DIRECT TRIBU NET site. The only access can be by a Costa Rican using their cedula and its expiration date. Try it and if you can get online, please correct me and explain how you did it. In my years of experience with laws in general, I find it quite difficult to believe that you can be found guilty of not filing when you cannot access the site to do so. The Ministry of Hacienda knows about this problem but refuses to rectify it.
3) The law requires a person to submit to Tributacion, a Costa Rica Bank Account number with which the Government can automatically withdraw this tax from. I don’t know how many of you out there trust the Costa Rica Government, or any Government, with the ability to freely withdraw funds from your bank account. If you do, you may want to seek some psychiatric help! It should be up to the
Government to give you their account to deposit funds to, not the way it is unconstitutionally proposed.
4) Many people are talking about hiring an Attorney, an Appraiser or a Title Company to assist them in this process. The law should not and does not require you to do this but suggests it and most people feel compelled to do so because they just don’t understand what to do. Most of the firms advertising their services do not understand the law and how to complete the forms. They are just looking for business, a business that will help them out for the next 10 years or more. I have seen several letters from various firms that show, by their own description of services, that they will most likely do a very poor job for you and should not be hired. When a law is so complicated that it almost forces people to spend between $400 and $1000 just to complete an appraisal and a form, this leads me to think the law is unconstitutional once again.
5) The initial tax and filing of forms is due on Dec. 31, 2009 with a 2nd tax due on January 15th. For those of you who live in Costa Rica, you understand what happens on holiday periods such as Christmas and Easter. In the case of Christmas this year, the Government offices will shut down on December 18th and reopen on January 4th 2010. When the Government shuts down, so do most Attorneys’, Accountant’s and Appraiser’s. So, in reality you don’t have until Dec. 31st to complete your filing, you have until Dec. 18th which by the way is a little over 1 week away. Also, once the Government offices reopen on the 4th, they will need at least one week to get up to speed and back to work again, especially on a reduced work force as usually is the case after long holiday periods. Once again, GOOD LUCK!!!!!
6) Are you an Appraiser? Have you gone through your years of schooling to be one? Do you understand how to measure your structures, the walls of your house, your outbuildings, fences, driveways and swimming pools? Can you determine the value of your land, determine slopes and grades? If you are very good at all of this you should have fewer problems than most people in completing this process. I have been involved in the real estate business for well over 30 years and I am having problems completing these forms. Once again, good luck to all of you that have the overwhelming experience you will need for this process.
7) Fines of 5 and 10 times the unpaid tax! How stupid is this! When penalties are usurious and unreasonable, they cannot be legal. Do you really believe they have the power to fine you 5 times the unpaid tax if you underestimate your property value by 10%? They can say this but enforcing it will be almost impossible. Again, are you an appraiser? Are you a computer expert? Can you comply with this law in the short time span given? The Government itself doesn’t even know how to collect taxes efficiently but they want to charge you a high penalty for you not being in compliance. How about the foreigner property owners who live out of the country and can’t
comply for many of the above reasons. Are you going to tell me that they must pay a penalty of 10 times the unpaid tax? This is so ridiculous it is hard to believe.
8) What does the Government think this type of law is going to do to foreign investment? How many foreigners are going to invest knowing that they will have at least 10 years of double taxation? How many hotel and cabina owners will not be able to pay these excessive taxes due to lack of business and tourism? With this type of law, it will be difficult to sell any upper end condos, apartments or homes. Is this really what the Government is looking for?
In closing, I would suggest that the Costa Rica Government revisit this law and make it something that can be used simply by all taxpayers and or homeowners. Perhaps a simple flat tax on all Corporations or some other method could be a friendlier way of implementing this. The end result and the amount of money obtained could be the same or possibly better. I know and truly believe the Costa Rican Government will wake up to the fact that they passed a bad law and in the end will revise it to make it legal, constitutional and in the best interests of the people.
Should we let our views be known to the lawmakers, ARCR and others who are confused and negatively affected by this law as written?

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