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us state department has advised all americans overseas to get home - they have dispatched aircraft to guatemala/morrocco and other sites to get any americans home that want to get back - they are evacuating all non essential personnel from embassies - I believe that the USA is going to "hit" red china!

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what china has done is an act of war - to unleash on the world a biological agent  of such horrendous destruction is an act of a group of monstrous minds -  a total all out nuclear  attack is warranted against china!

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Newman, how do you substantiate your claims here? 

You cite no reliable news source to verify that any of what you have posted is fact.

This pandemic is nothing more than a very serious health concern and as such it is a wholly non-partisan organism:  The virus doesn't care who you are, whether you are black, white, green, male or female;  it is an equal opportunity, non-discriminatory, infectious organism.  

As such it makes no sense for some malicious entity or faction to release an infectious agent which would also infect and kill them as well!

Please stop with the consipracy theories, Newman.  So UNLESS you cite some reliable sources to back your statements up this thread is closed.

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If you have actual proof that this virus was deliberately engineered and released by the government of China then put up - or shut up. 

If a country wanted to unleash biological warfare against another it would be pretty stupid to infect its own people first in the hope that they would then carry it to other countries. 

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newmans 1st post: facts stated, then his beliefs based on the facts. He expanded on those beliefs in his second post in answer to David's question. Of course we may not always agree with one another .

Global Advisory from travel.state.gov

"U.S. citizens who live in the United States should arrange for immediate return to the United States, unless they are prepared to remain abroad for an indefinite period" 19.3.20 

Since when did we need to substantiate our beliefs or did I miss something?

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Suggesting in unsubstantiated fashion that China has committed an act of war by manufacturing a global virus and that they should be retalliated against with a nuclear attack is not sensible.  Not sensible when that report has be shown by Snopes.com to be false.

Spreading such unfounded concerns can only cause unnecessary panic in sectors of the public so should not be encouraged without verification from reliable sources.

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10 minutes ago, Tom and Marcia said:

You can't convince someone who believes in conspiracy theories that they are wrong.

Perhaps we can't, but they ought to  –and should– be required to substantiate what they report so that others who are interested can verify the information.

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Hi

I agree that there is not 1 shred of fact in the conspiracy theory that China made this virus.

If they did, then did they make all of the previous Viruses that have been spawned in China?

Something must be done about china though, more strong sanctions from EVERY country in the world, only to be lifted when China can demonstate that they have stopped all the live torture and slaughter of dogs, cats, bats and who knows what else, in open markets.

 

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Anyone is free to believe whatever bizarre notion that pops into their heads. But if you post something, you presumably want others to share that belief. If the only basis for that belief is "because I think it's true" then you aren't going to persuade others to share it - so what's the point?

As for the original post, yes, it's true that the US State Department is aiding Americans abroad in getting back to the US - but only because so many flights have been canceled since the pandemic surfaced that many are having a hard time getting home. The State Department did the same thing after September 11, 2001 when many Americans abroad were also stranded.

It has absolutely nothing to do with any alleged impending attack on China. 

 

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The single most interesting thing about newman's recent postings, aside from the fact that he has re-ignited the issue of having some substantiation for them, is the fact (and this is an indisputable fact) that the "total all out nuclear attack" he advocates being launched against China would likewise result in a total all out nuclear attack on the United States and the rest of the world.

Should the U.S. launch newman's total all out nuclear attack on China, they would undoubtedly retaliate in kind and with equal devastation. That's the premise behind "mutual assured destruction" (you can look it up). And that would draw in the Russians, North Korea, Israel, Iran, India and Pakistan, Ukraine and whomever else has The Bomb. True, Costa Rica might be spared the immediate effects of a worldwide nuclear conflagration, but the radioactive fallout alone would get the rest of us, even newman.

The good news, should newman get his way, is that it would reduce the matter of the coronavirus to a mere footnote in history. That is, of course, if there were anyone left alive to write that history which there wouldn't be. 

 

Amusing side note: Last week, a rent-a-cop at PriceSmart told me that there is a secret worldwide society which unleashes all these disasters like the coronavirus on the world for some purpose he could not explain. I explained that there is an even more secretive cabal that makes up and spreads unfounded conspiracy theories like the ones newman wraps his arms around. 

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