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ronofboston

ENOUGH is ENOUGH

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We first applied for residency 5 years ago. ARCR had a great reputation and they did a good job for us. I have always recommended them to others. I don't understand why it takes so long for some people to get approved.

 

I do know that wait times increased with the recent Nica amnesty. It still seems that if all your papers are in order, your application should go on the bottom of a pile and eventually reach the top. If there is nothing wrong with your papers, it should just be a matter of processing time. It should not take years to get to the top of the pile.

 

Our total time was 8 months for temp pensionado status. I did our permanent papers myself and again it took 8 months. That leads me to believe that someone has reviewed these applications and found something lacking. It may be a good idea for you to check the migra site to find the status of your comprobante.

 

Go to:

 

http://migracion.go.cr/servicios_linea/estado_expediente.html

 

Press the "aqui" in this line:

 

Presione aquí para realizar la consulta.

 

If "PREVIO" comes back, you are missing something. Contact your attorney or la miga asap.

 

If it says "RESOLUCION FIRMAS" all you have to do is wait. It could be a long wait, but someone has done the initial check of your package and found all of the required documents.

 

I don't know if this will help, but will give you a second way to check your status. Ticos and Latinos in general, do not like to say "no" or give bad news. It's a cultural thing. and is not malicious.A lawyer's office may tend to say that all is fine without even checking.

 

 

 

T

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And if a lawyer promises you 'it will be completed within a specific time period, be it 9 months or 12 months' either ask him to put it in a legal document, that you will be able to reduce his fee by 10% at least ...E1tJ0vK.gif...per month over the extended time taken.

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I just checked my comprobante and I'm in "Resolucion Firmas". As I have been for a few years now...

 

Maybe in another year or so I'll go visit and pick up my cedula just for kicks and giggles! :rolleyes:

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I am not sure why Newman is still here in CR given all his "bad" experience. We only are hearing his side of the story. many many people including myself have had good experience getting resident & living here. I sure hope new people on this site do not take all Newman says as gospel truth. He seems to be a very unhappy man.

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you miss my point and are not Reading what I am saying - the past 13 years living here have been the

absolute best of my life - I'm living the life that every guy dreamns about, but very few achieve - the problema is, and being a student of history, I see our lives here coming to an abrupt,and very bad end - I don't want that to happen - the only way that we, as guests in this country can make a differenc

is to have our voices heard - we can't be in politics here, and we shouln't be in the political arena here, as we are guests here! - Positive comments expressed through the ARCR, as our lobby to the Costa

Rican government, (and yes, that is one reason that we belong to and pay dues to the ARCR, is for a channel to express our views to the Cosa Rican government), are the only positive way that we can have any hope of surviving what I see as coming here for us!! - those of you who are sticking your heads in the sand are deceiving yourselves, and those that are listening!!

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Enough is Enough

So what started this downward spiral in RESIDENCY application ?

We signed our contract with ARCR on November 19, 2012. While attending to other business in San Jose on December 19, 2012, we stopped at the ARCR Office to update our phone number and mailing address. We asked for a update on our status. By the end of the conversation, Paula got up and walked out, all but in tears. Once outside she vowed "I WILL NEVER SET FOOT IN THAT OFFICE AGAIN", and to this day she has not. Below is a reprint of the LETTER OF PROTEST sent the next day to Ryan Piercy.

 

From: Ronald Sullivan

To: Ryan Piercy ; Romulo Pacheco

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:59PM

Subject: STATUS

 

Never have I endured such indignity as I experienced today (Dec. 19) in the ARCR office at the hands of one of your staff members. To have her repeatedly call my wife a liar over and over - "I told you - Your wrong - It's in my notes". Any attempt at civil conversation was rebuked with "NO, YOUR WRONG, - IT'S IN MY NOTES - NO, I TOLD YOU". The final straw was as Stated " I SAT IN THE OFFICE AND EXPLAINED ALL THIS TO YOU". What was implied by ATTITUDE was " if you didn't understand what I said to you , you must be STUPID-STUPID-STUPID".

 

At this point I interceded and asked for the current status of our application for "Pensionado". I was informed by said employee "We haven't done anything with your application (since Nov.2012), we are waiting for you to secure your Social Security Letter from the U.S. Embassy, and we are waiting for your Apostle Birth Certificates and Police Letter.

 

What Police Letter "Apostle" ?? We were told the "Notarized" Police Letter was fine and we only needed to update and "Apostle" Birth and Marriage Certificates. Again the response from your employee was the same " No NO you were told - It's in my notes"

 

We did pay ARCR a considerable sum $ to secure a "apostle marriage certificate from CA. USA, but chose to have our son (local to Boston) to secure the necessary "Apostle" Birth Certificates. Now, unless I am STUPID, wouldn't I have had him secure an "Apostle Police Report" at the same time.

 

The next item is when I informed her I had obtained said Social Security Letter several weeks before and delivered it to our assigned ARCR Attorney, Mr. Romulo Pacheco, I was immediately chastised for not delivering it first to ARCR. " WE REPRESENT YOU" all documents should go to us first".

WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO KNOW THIS BEFORE !!!!

 

Now I am really confused. First I sign a agreement with, and pay ARCR to represent me in applying for Pensionado. ARCR in turn takes me upstairs to meet with my assigned attorney, Mr. Pacheco who is going to handle my case. After introductions and a brief meeting Mr. Pacheco has me sign a contract (in Spanish) for $2,100.00 and states he does not represent ARCR, but us.

 

The "Apostle" Birth Certificates were Fed-Xed, Tracking #801423830689, on Nov. 28 and signed for by Y. Murillo. Again your employee chastises me for not having them delivered to ARCR first.

 

At this point I have to ask myself " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON AT ARCR" "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH MY ASSIGNED LAWYER? E-MAIL-NO RESPONSE- PHONE CALL- NO RESPONSE. FILINGS-NONE.

 

When I requested your employee to call upstairs and verify receipt of all documents and current status, I was informed the documents are waiting to be transcribed and filing will not be until Jan. 2013. UNEQUIVOCALLY AND WITHOUT QUESTION I WAS TOLD BY YOU, YOUR LEGAL ASSISTANT AND BY THE ATTORNEY, that the DOCUMENTS presented to you during our meeting would in no way delay our filing for Pensionado. It was stated by all 3 of you "after initial filing we will substitute the "Apostle" documents. THIS IS A FACT,- IT'S IN MY NOTES !!!!

 

Being a member of ARCR (#11020) and having attended the ARCR relocation seminar, I am fully aware of the "self life" (6mos.) of the documents sitting on someone's desk yet to be filed.

 

In closing I stress the current status:

1) We have paid ARCR $2,982.00 US Dollars

2) Our current status is "NO APPLICATION SUBMITTED"

3) Our documents will expire April, 2013

4) Additional 90 day departures will be required (not budgeted)

 

I may be in a new country and adjusting to a new culture, BUT I'LL BE DAMNED IF I AM GOING TO SIT THERE AND HAVE A CONDESCENDING, SELF RIGHTEOUS, ARROGANT PERSON CALL MY WIEF A LIAR !!!!

 

I respectfully request a meeting with you at your earliest convince to resolve these issues.

 

Ron Sullivan

Member # 11020

Phone # 8446-8912

 

 

FOOT NOTE:

1) We did hear from attorney Pacheco upon receipt of our e-mail. He voiced grave concern regarding the incident and noted that said employee did not work for him, but had she, he would ...........

He also stated we were not to worry about the "Apostle Police Repot". He would take care of it. (mail document to Secretary of State with a self addressed, stamped envelope for return)

2) Of the 2 documents required during our meeting of November 19, 2012, our son secured the Apostle Birth Certificates and FED-Xed them to the lawyer. Total of 9 days.

The Apostle Marriage Certificate which ARCR was paid $250 to use their "Currier Service" to secure said document was not secured and filed with Immigration until May 15, 2014. THAT IS 542 DAYS !!

As I have said, that goes well beyond Incompetency and enters the realm of AN ACT OF MALICE.

3) We never did have the requested meeting with R. Piercy. In fact he has never called. I guess it wasn't that important to him. As for the advice "I should call him" let me be perfectly clear, I am the customer, if the company doesn't have the decency to care about a wronged customer I have no use for them.

 

I do hope everyone has a PURA VIDA DAY, and NEWBIES "TAKE WARNING"

Ron & Paula

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Let Costa Rica die the death that it so richly deserves!!

 

 

you miss my point and are not Reading what I am saying - the past 13 years living here have been the

absolute best of my life - I'm living the life that every guy dreamns about, but very few achieve - the problema is, and being a student of history, I see our lives here coming to an abrupt,and very bad end - I don't want that to happen - the only way that we, as guests in this country can make a differenc

is to have our voices heard - we can't be in politics here, and we shouln't be in the political arena here, as we are guests here! - Positive comments expressed through the ARCR, as our lobby to the Costa

Rican government, (and yes, that is one reason that we belong to and pay dues to the ARCR, is for a channel to express our views to the Cosa Rican government), are the only positive way that we can have any hope of surviving what I see as coming here for us!! - those of you who are sticking your heads in the sand are deceiving yourselves, and those that are listening!!

Newman,

 

I always to try to take a "live and let live" attitude towards other and their political/social/economic opinions. However, what spurred my perhaps less than friendly response to your earlier post is the first quote from you above. To me that sentiment is, well, obnoxious (I am not calling you obnoxious). I don't really understand how you can you can wish death to a country, and presumably great suffering to its people, that has provided you with the 13 best years of your life.

 

BTW, you most certainly can participate in the political process. You have been eligible to apply for citizenship for 7 years -- which will give you the right to vote, and even to run for office if you so desire.

 

In any case, you are certainly entitled to your opinions and have every right to express them. You are, apparently, convinced that you are correct and that those who disagree are either deluded, in denial, or simply ill-informed and mistaken. So be it. I will not not draw this conversation out any further.

 

Peace and Happiness.

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Being retired fronm the US military, I cannot become a citizen of another country - the primary reason

is that would betray my oath to the United States of America!! The secondary reason that I could not do that is that I

could be prosecuted (rightfully so)and lose all pay and benefits, with jail time if the prosecutor

 

would (and

rightfuly so) seek jail time!!

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Induna - wishing the death of Costas Rica is exactly my sentiment when they are out to destroy THEIR

own country - As Nixon said, and I PARPAHRASE, - in the end, if they don't want to see their country

succeed, that is their problem and we should respect that decisión........... - if they don't want tO

see their country succeed, I wish them well in their death throws - I have hte necessary funds to find other accomdations - the thing is, what about those living here on their social security?? Live on the beach eating coconuts??

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Newman. You CAN become a citizen of another country if retired from the military & keep your pensions etc. You do not have to give up your US citizenship. Check government sites on web.

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in reply - This has absolutely nothing to do with losing US citizenship - A as retired military member, by DOD regulation (Federal Law) no military member can become a citizen of any other country! This is a violation of ones oath to the United States of America!! - remember, when one is sworn in, he/she takes an oath, and on retirement one is trasnsferred to the inactive reserve, and is still under oath!! Any retired member of any US military branch who violates his oath to the United States of America, is subject to severe penalties!! - I repeat, this IS Federal Law, and I'll never violate my oath to my country! - for clarification, in the case of persons such as Franklin Chang Diaz, if a person under oath to the to the US military is offered, and awarded citizenship by a

country WITHOUT HIS SEEKING such citizenship , this law does not apply!! I have in the past heard all of the excuses/arguments concerning why one can be a citizen of a foreign country, but on this I am absolutely positive!! If any retired service member of the US have become citizens of ANY other country of their own free will, they COULD be in SERIOUS trouble!!

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To BOB205

 

There are folks on this forums you must just ignore... or at least ignore 80% of their posting. Newman is on the list. I have been admin on this list since I started it and forever, we have people who just go on and on ad nauseum about how bad it is here... but THEY ALMOST NEVER LEAVE!!!! "NO country is without problems." is 100% correct. I have been here over 16 years and while there are annoyances, it beats any other country I have visited... and there have been many.

 

TO NEWMAN.... If it is true you are sending nasty PMs to other members, better STOP or you will be EX. Newman. I allowed your stupid post above regarding CR... but let me clarify for all:

 

Costa Rica is running off anyone wanting to retire here, live here,

 

--- Just DUMB

invest here, safely travel the highways and byways here (the infrastructure is crumbling, bridges are ready to collapse, (in spite of the fact that the someone in government has waved his magic wand and

 

-- EVEN DUMBER

pronounced that in no way are any of the bridges going to collapse in Costa Rica)

 

Finally you got it right. Bridges suck. CR has no money, so it is management by crisis.

 

Encuentra were 12065 ads for used vehicles, this morning there are 12162 adds - forget about Costa Rica - go somewhere thagt you are wanted, where arms are opened wide and they appreciate your presence in their country!!

 

--- HUH??? Who cares???

Let Costa Rica die the death that it so richly deserves!!

 

--- Better leave quick then to avoid being dragged down.

 

 

Is there ANYONE who does not know that CR is broke? Our leaders, or the ones not in jail or under indictment, do not get it. Socialism only works when the folks with $$$ care to share... and the rich here do not share, but just like Greece, the country WILL survive. Probably... Newman will too.

 

Finally to Gayle!

 

I told Ron/Paula, that I was getting involved and I am. As i have recommended MANY times, use the attorneys at ARCR. Why? Are they better? Cheaper? More expensive? NO. But if they screw up, management WILL FIRE THEM and then move all your paperwork to another attorney at no charge to YOU. They will also do this if there is a personality conflict or for any other good reason. If you use an non ARCR attorney... well you are on your own. Pester the attorney only so far, then get in touch with ARCR management. Two + years sound like a long time... clearly you need help. You should be getting it shortly.

 

TG

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in reply - This has absolutely nothing to do with losing US citizenship - A as retired military member, by DOD regulation (Federal Law) no military member can become a citizen of any other country! This is a violation of ones oath to the United States of America!! - remember, when one is sworn in, he/she takes an oath, and on retirement one is trasnsferred to the inactive reserve, and is still under oath!! Any retired member of any US military branch who violates his oath to the United States of America, is subject to severe penalties!! - I repeat, this IS Federal Law, and I'll never violate my oath to my country! - for clarification, in the case of persons such as Franklin Chang Diaz, if a person under oath to the to the US military is offered, and awarded citizenship by a

country WITHOUT HIS SEEKING such citizenship , this law does not apply!! I have in the past heard all of the excuses/arguments concerning why one can be a citizen of a foreign country, but on this I am absolutely positive!! If any retired service member of the US have become citizens of ANY other country of their own free will, they COULD be in SERIOUS trouble!!

 

I have heard this before, and it is 100% correct if the country where you seek citizenship has a standing military. CR does not. I know several ex-military who have citizenship here, but ALL received it because they married Ticos! Now... If Newman were to seek citizenship here via time he has lived in CR, there are serious issues that could hurt him!

 

Finally... Citizenship is not for everyone and frankly, now that I have it, is less than I expected. The one good thing is not having to renew my PM ever again!

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I invite anyone doubting my interpretation of loss of all pay and benefits to do as their own search of the DOD regs. concerning loss of pay and benefits/citizenship

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